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    Super Moderator nunyabizniss34's Avatar
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    I agree Dave. The T-28 is a nice plane to learn to use ailerons on. It was my first aileron trainer, nice and easy to land too.
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    Guys, when you name a plane you MUST name a brand. There are probably 20 or more T28s out there. Big ones and small ones and kits and gassers and the like. Saying T28 says that you feel any T28 model from any maker is a good aileron trainer. I would not agree with this.

    I happen to think the HobbyZone Super Cub is a great first RTF for self trainers. I have seen other Cubs and Super Cubs that were crap. And I have had my 11 foot wing spand glider towed into the air behind a Cub that weighted 20 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aeajr View Post
    Guys, when you name a plane you MUST name a brand. There are probably 20 or more T28s out there. Big ones and small ones and kits and gassers and the like. Saying T28 says that you feel any T28 model from any maker is a good aileron trainer. I would not agree with this.

    I happen to think the HobbyZone Super Cub is a great first RTF for self trainers. I have seen other Cubs and Super Cubs that were crap. And I have had my 11 foot wing spand glider towed into the air behind a Cub that weighted 20 pounds.
    Ok you're right. I should have named the brand.

    I started on a Parkzone T-28. Flies slow, lands well, durable, good flight times. I have also had a 1400mm Airfield T-28 (much larger than the Parkzone) and it is also a great flyer, although I wouldn't recommend that particular model as an aileron trainer because it's much faster and requires more room to land even though it has flaps installed. The 800mm T-28 from Nitroplanes is also a nice model that is pretty durable but the size was a bit too small for me, although coming from a HZ Champ, the 800mm series is going to seem large to you

    If I had to choose, I'd go with the Parkzone, with the Airfield 800mm version a close second.
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    Here's a link to the RTF 800mm T-28. I assume you need a radio...hence the RTF version

    http://www.nitroplanes.com/95a303-t28-red-rtf-24g.html
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    I didn't mention a brand because I was more talking about wing shape and overall stability. Compare to the spitfire the T-28 is a piece of cake. Elliptical wing of the spitfire makes it much harder to fly. The Corsair gull wing makes it a stable flyer. The mustang has a short aspect ratio wing to tail. It makes the elevator a little touchy.

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    the pusle might be a bit much for a first aleron plane.

    something like a mulitplex funcub might be the next step. a radio might need to be the very next step and then figure out what plane from there.

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    I guess it would depend on your natural ability whether you're ready to step up to a Warbird. I learned on a Nine Eagles P47. Yup, sure did crash. Few times. But the plane jumped right back and kept on flying. 3 motors later, I'm STILL flying that plane, along with another Nine Eagles Spitfire, 2 FMS planes (750mm P47, 1400mm P47) a Flyzone Albatros, a Parkzone U.M. Corsair I've yet to fly...just got that bird yesterday, and a whole PISSPOT fulla helicopters from CX up to a 6 Ch. micro, with an Art Tech Rogue 500 6 Ch. on the way. And we (me and my Son) have only been at it for about a year.

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    No question Matiac - I have been saying the same thing for years now on this forum, some have high level of hand - eye some not so much Lol!

    here's some tech specs I look at in a plane, big or small ---- There are others of course, but these combined make for increased stability

    Leading edge of wing - the straighter that edge, the lees the tendency to stall

    The relationship in fuse length to wingspan - the closer the length numbers are, the more authority you have

    Wing cord or airfoil - more is stable in slower flight

    Not to mention it's not necessarily the flying of the craft - it's more about the landing!

    I would love to have a full blow turbine plane, but have no business landing one! I could fly the hell out of it, but when it comes time to land it I would need a 400 yard runway or my thumbs would be rattling the hell out of the sticks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang67 View Post
    No question Matiac - I have been saying the same thing for years now on this forum, some have high level of hand - eye some not so much Lol!

    here's some tech specs I look at in a plane, big or small ---- There are others of course, but these combined make for increased stability

    Leading edge of wing - the straighter that edge, the lees the tendency to stall

    The relationship in fuse length to wingspan - the closer the length numbers are, the more authority you have

    Wing cord or airfoil - more is stable in slower flight

    Not to mention it's not necessarily the flying of the craft - it's more about the landing!

    I would love to have a full blow turbine plane, but have no business landing one! I could fly the hell out of it, but when it comes time to land it I would need a 400 yard runway or my thumbs would be rattling the hell out of the sticks
    Now ain't that the truth. I do anything in a simulator , but put it up in the air. There is a big difference in really flying.

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    yeah we all get pretty relaxed on the sim, I land turbine jets rather well on the sim, but even so, $1500 for an engine alone. . . the sim works just fine for me, stick to my edfs

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