Exceed Blueray 450 PE

[dditch66]

I purchased an Exceed Blueray 450 PE from Xheli.
I've had about 5 packs through it and I'm impressed so far.
I have a Belt CP and Exceed G2 as well.
First off, this is not a beginner Heli. no instructions so you need to know what you are doing.
The Exceed Blueray is the size of the Belt CP and would be familiar to anyone who already has a CCPM heli. Electric or Nitro.
This would be a nice 450 Electric if you already have been flying Nitro Helis.
This is more stable and flys better than my Belt CP. It already comes w/ the HH gyro and fiberglass blades, metal head, Carbon frame etc.
The Motor is plenty powerful enough for 3D.
After making adjustments during hovering to the pitch curves on my first 3 packs, My next 2 packs I flew it in forward flight on a day that was about 10mph winds. It was noticably more stable in the wind than the Belt CP. Not as stable as my 30 Nitro but it was comfortable flying it.
It did nice loops and had good forward flight charactoristics and stability.
I'll do some more w/ it later but my first impression is that I made a good purchase.
Once again, this is NOT a training Heli or beginner Heli.  But it would be a good Heli for a 2nd one if you have already been flying a small Electric or Nitro Heli.

Tips (most of these are basic heli set up good for any Heli):
If you have a Belt CP, you can copy your model memory over and then reverse any needed servos.
Set up your pitch curves, then adjust your throttle curves. Compared to my Belt CP, I had to turn down the midrange throttle. The ESC for this responded differently to the throttle input than my Belt. Otherwise, your midrange will over rev the head.
Make sure you order a small size pitch gauge if you have been flying 30 and 60 size nitros so it will fit on the smaller blades.
I made an indoor run up stand where I can mount my Heli to a workmate bench and run it up and set my throttle curves.
That helps speed things up alot for when your ready to fly. I even set my tracking using the stand so I don't have to mess with that at my field.
Make sure you check your tail polarity. Right stick and the tail should push air away from the right side of the tail.
Check your Gyro rate as well as HH gain before flying. Since this is not RTF, you need to be checking this stuff yourself. I bet this is the one thing people struggle w/ cause it takes the time to think about it.
Spend the time centering the servo arm mechanicst to 90 degrees when at zero pitch.
I set up my pitch throttle curves like this (my preferences)
N : -2 to +9 (2500RPM)
I1 : -5 to +9 (2600RPM)
I2 : -9 to +9 (2600RPM)

[dragonfly]

do u hv a video? if so, you can submit it for a chance to win great prizes.

http://www.rcdiscuss.com/index.php?board=5.0

[dditch66]

do u hv a video? if so, you can submit it for a chance to win great prizes.

http://www.rcdiscuss.com/index.php?board=5.0

yes, I have video (see Advanced user forum).

I am working on my videos now.
I'll have a Blueray 450 PE video as well as a Raptor G2 SE video

[roman_king1]

Hello everyone,

Plz, I need help with the blueray 450PE purchased on xheli. The t6config did not come with any instructions whatsoever, so i did not know that I had to press the "getuser" button. For some unknown reason, it reset all the numbers of the Tx to crap. Huge disaster! Now, after spending a whole day trying to understand the t6config, I could reconfig the throt curve, pitch curve, 3D mode... but I believe everything I set is no where close to the right values.

So could you do me a big favor here: could you getuser on you Tx, then save as a factory default file, then email it to me so that I can reset my Tx to the good use condition. This is a huge help. So I hope you wouldn't mind doing so.

my email is: roman_king1@yahoo.com.

Thanks a million.
Tony.

[yadac123]

tony,

I'll email a factory default to you.

Andy

[canewalker]

Are you guys saying that the radio and receiver aren't even "dedicated" to one another with this helicopter?

I ordered a BlueRayPE on 2-18 and got backordered and there seems to be no set delivery date. I'm beginning to wonder if I want this thing now if it isn't really RTF like the ad said it was. Sounds like I may have made a $330 blunder. Hmmmm..... 

[dditch66]

Start here:
http://www.mycoolheli.com/t6config.html

I have flown 3 helis nearly out of the box.
Esky Belt CP, Exceed G2 and an Exceed Blueray.
Only the Exceed blueray did I actually need something that was not provided (Charger). But that is stated on the sales page.

I however am an experianced heli pilot. In all cases, after the initial hover, I put it on my bench and tweeked the pitch curves and linkages per my desires to get it the way I like it.

RTF typically means you don't have much if all assembly. It does not (within the hobby industry) mean always that you can open and then fly.
You can do that w/ the coaxials but the Collective Pitch helis you should unplug the motor and examine the pitch settings before flying.

A collective Pitch heli is also NOT a good heli for a beginner. Coaxials and Fixed pitch helis are better for that.
http://www.xheli.com/beginners.html

[canewalker]

Start here:
http://www.mycoolheli.com/t6config.html

I have flown 3 helis nearly out of the box.
Esky Belt CP, Exceed G2 and an Exceed Blueray.
Only the Exceed blueray did I actually need something that was not provided (Charger). But that is stated on the sales page.

I however am an experianced heli pilot. In all cases, after the initial hover, I put it on my bench and tweeked the pitch curves and linkages per my desires to get it the way I like it.

RTF typically means you don't have much if all assembly. It does not (within the hobby industry) mean always that you can open and then fly.
You can do that w/ the coaxials but the Collective Pitch helis you should unplug the motor and examine the pitch settings before flying.

A collective Pitch heli is also NOT a good heli for a beginner. Coaxials and Fixed pitch helis are better for that.
http://www.xheli.com/beginners.html

OK, that being said, I had to set my pitch (PIT and PLT) on both of my G2's and I did it with help from a lot of the people who no longer post here. Their loss is a sad thing for all of us because of the amount of knowledge that we no longer have access to. Water under the bridge I guess but I don't even know where they went!

Anyway, it sounds as if the problems you encountered with your Blueray were similar to what I ran into with my G2's. If so I'll probably be calling on ALL of y'all quite a bit when I FINALLY do get my Blueray.

I wanted a 500 or 600 sized heli but my wallet isn't big enough to buy those Expensive spare parts.
Then again, all I need to do is... not crash!

hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaahhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cough, cough, spit, cough ----- whew!

[Gerrard]

I recently bought a Blueray 450.  I am well aware that i am not experienced enough to be flying this heli, however i have gotten pretty proficient at flying some smaller helis.  When i try to lift off, my blueray immediately starts spinning.  I have tried to adjust all of the trim and knobs on the remote and can't seem to stop it from spinning.  Any advice?

[elk]

I recently bought a Blueray 450.  I am well aware that i am not experienced enough to be flying this heli, however i have gotten pretty proficient at flying some smaller helis.  When i try to lift off, my blueray immediately starts spinning.  I have tried to adjust all of the trim and knobs on the remote and can't seem to stop it from spinning.  Any advice?

Its all about your tail set-up...! There are many good videos out there..  Move your stuff (ie: move your "tail" servo front or back on the boom), 90deg., HH , Tx adjustments and all that stuff, there is much to know and is difficult to set......... Again, there are many good videos out there.. watch them... and weigh each of them with a grain of salt, every heli is a little diffirent. These guy's do know thier stuff.

Learning myself,

Elk

ps: keep in mind the Blue Ray 450PE runs very hard and fast, no room for error for the beginnner (amen for spare parts and lots of time).

[wolfgang]

I flew only a Blade Mcx and went straight to the blueray. It is a great heli and with a good portion of mecanical knoledge you can get along pretty well.
I crashed twice, but had only minor damage. Of course with the training gear and wooden blades, they are cheeper and do not cause so much damage on the rotor head in case of a crash.
I think the landing gear is crap and replaced it with 10x2 mm aluminum and upgrated to a fiberglas canopy (the original is just to fragile.
I did not mess with the pitch curve at all and got along pretty well with the factory setting (pitch gage, adjusting blades and flybar is imperative in my opinion).

After around ten packs I got a grip of the controls and hovered quiet well.

Right now I am doing well with flying outside with up to 10 mph wind.

I believe patience and good adjustments (pich and gyro) is the key to success.

To make a long story short if you are up for a challenge go for it, but if you are not sure about that you better go with an  good size easy to fly fixed pitch.

Wolfgang

PS: dditch is great as tutor and nearly always around in the beginner forum.

[canewalker]

I got tired of waiting and canceled my order for my BlueRayPE after waiting for 3 months. I took the money that I had paid for the BRPE with and bought a Belt CP and an EXI 450 barebones kit and had a bucket of change left over. I got my Belt CP last week and have been flying it every day since then. Wind be dammed! For a cheap plastic heli the Belt CP does 'wind' almost as well as my G2 with the CoPilot installed. I can't believe how cheaply made the Belt CP is but it does what they advertised, it flys! The actual instructions that came with the Belt CP are sparse but it does have a lot of good pictures for those of us who can't read... hehehe.   

[jdino2]

I purchaesd My Blue Ray about 5 weeks ago, came out of the box set-up well.
I only needed to balance the blades and adjust the pitch a hair.......
The servos rod angles were not at 90deg but very close....needed no adjustment....
Bare in mind, I'm still a collective pitch newbie, but with tons of previous coax and sim training, this bird hovers without to much stick chasing and is stable with head on low altitude circuit flying. I't not a Trex or other high end 450 and I'm not even ready to roll or invert and do not plan on it for some, but for my money, it was the right choice!
I've spent, what could have been money on a Trex, on a good charger, batteries and up-graded blades. My next cha-ching will be on a Fatuba or Spectrum TX and still have some pocket coin left over........

Jdino2

[Tristar777]

I agree about the stock plastic canpoy, practiced some hovering today, few hard landings, broke the plastic support for the skids, not as strong as they look, figure I'll become less hard landing prone before I break out the fiberglass.

Anyone use the superskids, or do folks have other ways to beef up the stock landing skid supports?

[Firebird]

I agree about the stock plastic canpoy, practiced some hovering today, few hard landings, broke the plastic support for the skids, not as strong as they look, figure I'll become less hard landing prone before I break out the fiberglass.

Anyone use the superskids, or do folks have other ways to beef up the stock landing skid supports?

How did you manage to break the landing skid supports? I've dropped onto the skids from 3 feet up onto concrete and they're as strong as ever... Minus the skid end caps and some plastic from the bottom which appears to be sanded down from the concrete (Damn motor vibration).